sqbr: Are you coming to bed? I can't, this is important. Why? Someone is wrong on the internet. (duty calls)
Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 08:36 pm
Yes, really.

Because while I may not be into m/m much most of the time, and have my own Issues With Slash Fandom, I've seen a few posts pop up on tumblr recently (here's the most recent) which have been taking the very simplistic line that slash's popularity is purely a result of misogyny, and that writing m/m is equivalent to only writing about white people. These posts also act like het is this POOR OPPRESSED MINORITY which, no.

It's nearly 2013, fandom, have we still not moved beyond this? Can't we argue about something else now?
Cut for those as sick of it as me )
sqbr: She's getting existential again. It's ok I have a super soaker. (existentialism)
Friday, June 11th, 2010 01:06 pm
Fanworks fandom is for many women(*) a way to create a space where we can express ourselves freely and escape the oppressive sexist heteronormativity of mainstream fiction. (If that's not how it works for you, you may not get much out of this post)

There is to some extent a division between those who find their joy through m/m, and those through female protagonists. These aren't neat divisions and there's people who do neither or both (I've written male protagonist m/m, m/m/f and gen myself) but to some extent they're mutually exclusive approaches.

Sadly, the women of both groups are inclined to get into "All het is heteronormative and sexist" vs "All m/m is mysogynist and sexist" arguments, which, beyond ignoring femslash, as Hoo boy, thoughts on yaoi (let me tell you them) points out isn't helpful or accurate. That is definitely not what I'm trying to get into here.

What I'd like to express, because it's been niggling at me ever since I first encountered m/m fanfic nearly a decade ago, is the way that while m/m slash fandom clearly acts as a feminist self expression thing for it's fans, and I realise it isn't actually just an extension of the Patriarchy and it's hatred of female characters, that is how it feels to me a lot of the time. And I'm not sure what if anything can be done about it (mainly I just needed to get this out of my head).

My brain's a bit mushy today, I apologise in advance for any giant holes in my argument, feel free to poke at them though I may take a while to reply.

Also: I am not accusing m/m slashers generally of sexist intent. I mean I think some of them are being sexist, but they're no worse than anyone else on the whole imo and my m/m slashy friends are all awesome feministy people. This is about the effect of m/m fandom on me as someone outside it.
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sqbr: A cartoon cat saying Ham! (ham!)
Friday, July 31st, 2009 08:49 pm
Reading this misogynist slash fangirl bingo card I started thinking about how much more effective it would be if you put the contradictory squares next to each other. It's rather like solving a jigsaw puzzle making them all be contradictory, including the "Sod it, this doesn't quite fit but I'll put it there anyway" stage :D (And yes, no "Free Space", it mucked up the order)
Slash Mysogny bingo card

Note: Not all slashers/yaoi fans are misogynist, not even (necessarily) when they use these arguments. But if you manage to fill an entire row all at once then you probably are.

I had some gaps, then came across this post about Uhura bashing in the Star Trek kink meme via friendsfriends. The "GLBT activists" pushing for Kirk/Spock is a good example too. Thanks for the inspiration, Star Trek fandom!