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lauredhel ([identity profile] lauredhel.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] sqbr 2008-03-27 08:52 am (UTC)

Nodnodnod.

I see parallels with disability rights/accessibility (I'm talking in general here, which I should have clarified from the start - about larger systems and patterns, not about Swancon, which I wasn't at. Partly for access reasons, which aren't anyone's fault as such, just the way most cons are set up by default.) Able-bodied people will say over and over again stuff that amounts to "But we have a wheelchair ramp! Anything else is too hard!", instead of actually listening to what people with disabilities are trying to say.

One of the strongest themes running through the feminists-allies discussions in the blogosphere seems to be "Just shut up, listen, and really hear us for a moment." ("Without getting defensive.") That, and "Believe our lived experience."

You make the parallels with race and racism also, which are totally valid IMO (disclosure: as a white person). All function in different ways, but the patterns repeat.

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