Given how grumpy and tired I was, it not implausible that you and Dave have the right of it. And there were lots of other interesting things brought up at that meeting, I can believe that it continued later into other topics. I guess that's the other side of the coin: sometimes a POV isn't being ignored, it's just that it really just didn't come up, you can't talk about everything all the time in every panel.

Ha, yes, I do realise that there are a lot of ideas people suggest and get attached to that would be very nice in principle but aren't necessarily practical. I do not envy you your job, unisfa committee was bad enough :)

BBQ! I forgot! Yes, when is it? Perhaps a post to swancon or the list or something? I remember it coming up during the closing ceremony but I got distracted.