Hmm. I agree those things come into it too, it's one of those messy situations where there's good and bad reasons for things being done the way they are, and it's often a matter of opinion where any individual instance lies on the continuum. I'm not sure I can articulate quite how I disagree with you so I'll have to leave it at that :)

Good point on the good girls in leather thing though. Hmm. (I didn't put a lot of thought into this post and was figuring out what I thought as I went along, these comments have been good food for thought)