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Sean ([personal profile] sqbr) wrote2009-02-28 08:14 am
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Steampunk debate

Confidential note to [livejournal.com profile] strangedave, since you were also wishing for more discussion of such things: [livejournal.com profile] steampunkdebate, a community for discussing steampunk including class/race/gender etc issues.

EDIT: Oh, and apparently the reason it was created was because a post on [livejournal.com profile] steamfashion poking at the subtext of steampunk was unexpectedly deleted. And then they deleted the first post promoting the new comm as a place to continue the conversation for not being sufficiently fashion related :/
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-01 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
That would be cool!

I've recently been reading a very little about the history of Chinese Australians in the 19th century(*) and it's this whole thing that never gets talked about, really challenges my mental images of the past. And that sort of expectation plays into steampunk a lot too.

(*)Pre 1788 Asian Australian history being a totally different ballgame!
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[identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto. I saw a local history about Toowong, a suburb I knew had an Asian connection because it's near the university and popular with Asian students. But it had a significant chinese community in the 1800s. And that does not get talked about much.
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-04 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think the fact that there were any chinese australians pre 1975ish is pretty much never talked about, with the odd exception of the goldrush.

[identity profile] aris-tgd.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
I found the book, and it turns out that most of the photos are actually from the 1930s and on. Bah! I think there are more gold-rush era photos in some of their other books, but I don't have any others. I should try and track some more down.
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-04 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
the 1930s would be interesting too, if less steampunky.

[identity profile] aris-tgd.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
From a local history perspective it's absolutely fascinating. And yeah, it's awesome to think about what could be done with history that doesn't get talked about and Steampunk--using the genre to subvert the conventions of the Victorian era theme.