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Sean ([personal profile] sqbr) wrote2009-05-01 11:19 am
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Thinking about ablist language

This post is for blogging against disablism day. I'm pretty new to thinking about disability in any serious way so this may all be bunk.

I was plotting out a post in my head the other day and the phrase "I am rather tone deaf to the nuances of american cultures" popped into my head. "Hmm" I thought "Is that ablist language? Do tone deaf people really count as disabled? Would they care? Where do you draw the line?"

And I had a bit of an epiphany. To a certain extent it doesn't matter: while one of the major reasons for avoiding ablist language is to avoid contributing to social bias and discrimination against those disabled people who suffer them, the very idea of using a real illness as a metaphor for a negative trait is indicative of deep problems with the way our society views illness.

Unfortunately, I am low on spoons, so I can't quite articulate my point, but I'll take a punt and try to flesh it out another day.

I think a good example which illustrates my point is "colourblind racism". Briefly: This is when someone "doesn't see" the race of the people they interact with, and so ends up supporting the status quo ie racism and not making allowances for the different experiences people have because of their race.
The reason this term is unfair to colourblind people is that they don't go around saying "I don't see colour! We should all act like colour doesn't exist! You people insisting that red and green traffic-lights mean different things are the real problem!". In my experience they aware of and acknowledge that their vision is flawed, and learn to work around it.

Ablist language works on the assumption that people who have lack certain abilities (whether this makes them disabled or not) are inherently less worthy, and incapable of being as good as anyone else at things involving that ability.

Aaaand that's about the end of my spoons. If you're interested in the topic, have a look at Feminists are fine with being bigots if it’s just ableism which has links which lead to more links... and then I ran out of link clicking spoons :)
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Re: Joint reply to make the conversation easier to keep track of

[personal profile] attentive 2009-05-06 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, it's my opinion that "such and such a word is out because some people have said it makes them uncomfortable" is a decent basis for polite interaction in an intimate community, but not for broader social interactions. It feels rather inappropriate to devise general rules based on individual, anecdotal observations.

(I'm not suggesting this is the case with "crazy". The post you linked to makes an excellent point about how "I'm not crazy" statements might have a deeply exclusive social function for the mentally ill.)

I apologise for casting you in the role of expert, as it precludes you from making your usual disclaimers about fumbling in the dark on all of these matters. D'oh. I actually just thought that since you'd mentioned the difficulties associated with "crazy", you'd almost certainly read something cogent on the subject.

My current take on political campaigns to change elements of discourse (vocab, figures of speech) that are taken to invoke or reinforce prejudicial thinking is that perhaps they are not all accounting for their effects very well.

If these campaigns are pursued with uniform vigour whether their effects are productive or not, and if there's not usually much clear understanding whether it's the changes to elements of discourse, or other "side" effects of the campaign itself that are expected to produce a positive political outcome, they don't seem to me to be a good idea.

My thinking is that if these effects were accounted for more carefully, the shape of the campaigns would also change to acknowledge and drop or change failed lines of attack. For example, although the word "crazy" may well have unwanted patterns of use that invalidate the lives of the mentally ill, to decry its use to the "average Australian" would provoke storms of laughter and a whole heap of "blah blah blah PC thought police" dismissal. So it wouldn't be a good idea, or it would be a very poorly timed one.

It reminds me of an old Alexei Sayle joke about revolutionary communism:

Q: How many Trotskyists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: You can't change the light bulb comrade, you have to smash it!
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Re: Joint reply to make the conversation easier to keep track of

[personal profile] attentive 2009-05-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I read the link (referred to it in a different comment -- I thought the fliparound of "not crazy" was interesting).

I realise you're not talking about public policy, nevertheless I believe the process whereby the objections of a few individuals within a notional "category" affected by prejudice are transformed into a general, normative rule of discussion should be carefully moderated (by a representative sample of affected people).

It's easy to imagine people diagnosed with mental illness feeling pigeonholed, patronised and infuriated by a concerned speaker avoiding the use of the term "crazy" because it might offend, when in their case it possibly doesn't. And subsequently resenting other people who'd testified to the offence they take from the term and their influence on the mainstream voice of authority that inevitably seems to have a majority share in the control of discourse*.

I've seen this happen in the case of feminism where women, particularly those who feel in control of their own circumstances and don't want to be portrayed as "in need" by an interfering male-dominated voice of authority, are infuriated by condescending concessions.

I can't see this being a problem with your comments policy though, since you've declared this to be a safe space in which people should be free from whatever oppression, including that related to the use of language, that they suffer from in other contexts. But I think there's a need for us all to understand that while a rule concerning terminology, or modes of speech, or some other instrument of the social sphere might function very effectively in one context, it might be an abject failure in another context.

Specific rules don't cross those contextual boundaries well, they usually need to be redesigned according to their more general formative principles within the new social environment, or the environment itself needs to be changed in preparation for their introduction (cf my earlier comment predicting the response of the Australian public to restricting use of the word "crazy").

* I understand this is in itself a huge problem (and one which I probably exacerbate by being in this discussion and trying to control thereby how discourse "should" change), but it's also just another practical hurdle to effective change.
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Re: Joint reply to make the conversation easier to keep track of

[personal profile] attentive 2009-05-08 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
(Failing terribly at stopping discussion.)

I think my line is drawn somewhere else, or doesn't get drawn at all. Even the phenomenon of "giving offence" is much more nuanced than our discussion has admitted to this point, let alone the complex, dynamic environment in which the whole of any human utterance must be considered if you're going to analyse its intersection with power structures to the point where you can propose ways to change that.

But changing language is the means, changing power relations the end. I regard you here as promoting a somewhat reductive axiomatic programme for changing language. It seems to include the principle "if it offends thee, cut it off" as evinced by your comment:
"I do also think that this means it's probably worth avoiding all things being equal. The fact it doesn't bother all mentally ill people doesn't stop it bothering the ones it does."
(Side note: I'm not personally in favour of a hypothetical future in which no one gets "bothered". I'd rather one in which people are all bothered equally where those traits which should provide no basis for systematic discrimination are concerned.)

I assess "crazy" to be a good example of a term with a relative marginal capacity to offend by its mere presence in discourse. Compared to, say, "nigger", which by its mere presence has a great capacity to offend.

That's a unilateral assessment that doesn't have any bearing on how real people actually feel, so I make it tentatively, and in the knowledge that real people have been offended by uses of the term.

But we're not really talking about words but about their use as a tool of oppression. That's what we want to eliminate, but how?

Therefore where in some cases I think proscribing words is useful, in others I believe more nuanced tactics might be better. It is valuable, for instance, to bring the discussion about why you might want to avoid the word "crazy" into mainstream consciousness -- as you have into mine. By having this discussion I've become much more aware of the ablist politics embedded in my usual patterns of speech, which is a good thing for me and for the activist agenda.

It's perhaps more valuable to highlight, satirise, ridicule, invert or "jam" the way a word is used. That's attacking the process whereby its uses derive a power-political outcome, not the word itself.

Trying to ban the actual word in a wider social context seems likely to fail, and fail in a counterproductive way that gives the "normals" every chance to accuse the activists of naïveté and impracticality.

In effect, I see this conversation between us as testing what would happen if you proposed to limit the use of terms in a more general venue, say a university department or a corporate workplace. Except that I'm probably more forgiving than that hypothetical wider audience would be. The last thing you want to do is fail with a proposition like that in a venue where your audience ends by roundly congratulating itself on its disagreement with you, reinforcing prejudice.
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Re: Joint reply to make the conversation easier to keep track of

[personal profile] aquaeri 2009-05-06 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, as you mention, you don't actually know what the intellectually or cognitively challenged think of "stupid". I don't either.

Secondly, I'm not arguing that this is parallel to "crazy", I'm just arguing that it might be parallel to crazy, or at least give you an idea why I'm still on the fence. Let's say I identify with "bitch" at least here as aquaeri: unashamedly opinionated woman who does sometimes hurt other people's feelings with her opinions. I think the number of times I see "bitch" used to mean something that looks awfully like that to me, entirely justifies that idea. But I don't think asking other people not to use the word "bitch" is remotely useful. Not in isolation. It has to be in the context of an awareness of social expectations about women as nurturing, supportive, and not so much not entitled to have strong opinions, as not needing to have strong opinions because surely a man can take care of that for her? And if a man isn't expressing those strong opinions, they're probably not important?

I think I either have to accept the way "bitch" is used by our culture, with an awareness that every time I am opinionated and female, there will necessarily be a lot of negative reactions, because of the way things are. It's not the way things have to be, but I can't see that I have any chance of contributing to changing that, without a very clear awareness of exactly how things are right now. Otherwise we get PrivilegeFails like 'colourblindness'.
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less "crazy"

[personal profile] aquaeri 2009-05-06 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry I wasn't clear - I'm squeezing bits in between working, and some poor student is getting less of my marking time for this comment :-).

I think we agree in principle. The way I want to go about it though is to think about social conceptions of mental illness and challenge them in my own thinking and I suspect/hope the frequency with which I call something "crazy" will naturally drop as a result.

(I also wanted to mention that I am in fact diagnosed with mental illness, but not one where "crazy" is usually applied. And talking about my own experience would be hijacking this so I hope (once the marking is done) to write something about it in my own space.)