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Sean ([personal profile] sqbr) wrote2009-11-25 09:59 am

Intersections of youth and other aspects of the kyriarchy

[personal profile] naraht's post Adult privilege linking to The Adult Privilege Checklist has a great discussion in the comments poking at the various aspects of adult privilege and possible criticisms of the list. [personal profile] hl's response The Opression of Chilhood. In which I try for emotionless and hard analysis (and fail) got me thinking about intersections.

I don't have any major point, just some thoughts.

So:

  • I think a lot of "why don't people pull themselves up by their bootstraps" classism/racism glosses over the fact that children REALLY can't do this. (Not that it's fair to expect it of anyone, but noone's going to deny it's stupid to expect it of say a baby)
  • Control over sexuality and identity is a MAJOR issue for intersex children, and anyone else with an "abnormal" but functional body who is operated on without their consent "for their own good".
  • The way children are forced into their parents ethnic/cultural values is a serious issue for interracial/international adoptees.


There's more along those lines, but if I wait until I have more to say I'll never get around to posting this :)

EDIT: Adult Privilege Linkspam and A Transformational Politic (bell hooks).

I find myself pondering the similarities and differences with the treatment of disabled people, especially those with cognitive disabilities.
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[personal profile] elf 2009-11-25 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard that age of consent in Japan is 13, hence the wide availability of manga with very young characters who freak out westerners.

Age of consent in the US varies by state; it ranges from 14 (I think that's currently the lowest; it was previously 12) to 18. But even in the states with under-18 ages-of-consent, the laws get all tweaky-weird around age 18; it may be legal for two 16-year-olds to have sex but not for an 18-year-old to have sex with a 16-year-old.

And the laws are running into some psychotic problems right now, with the internet & cellphones, because *pictures* of under-18s are forbidden... and teens who take pics of their boyfriend/girlfriend and email it to other friends are running afoul of "child pornography" laws.

LGBT teens in the US have an extra layer of discrimination to deal with--until recently, "abstinence-only" sex ed was taught in 49 of the 50 states. (I'm in California, the one original holdout; I think we're down to about half the states still using those programs.) They taught that the only *safe* sex was monogamous inside marriage, and everyone should wait until marriage to have sex. So, um, gay people? Should be celibate for life. (The programs kinda implied that gay people shouldn't or maybe didn't really exist; "confused" teens should hold off on all sexual behavior until they find a straight marriage.)

Too tired to remember not to typo.

[personal profile] gretel 2009-11-27 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a reputation among a lot of single sex private schools in WA in how they teach this differently. I have no idea how true this is now, but I remember my mother (who did her BEd while I was in high school) being disgusted by the differences other teachers were telling her about.

For the girl schools they tend to be rather thorough with making sure the girls know a lot about avoiding pregnancies and STI's for the reason you mentioned.

The boys schools (and this was certainly true of the boys I dated from private schools) they weren't taught shit all. It wasn't something that reflected on the school badly if these boys had poor attitudes towards women and sexual health

Of course, given at least one of these schools has since been busted with 13yearold girls selling porn tapes of themselves to the boys at the private boy schools, hopefully this attitude has been shaken up a bit more (interestingly in that case I remember it was the boys school that caught on and acted fastest about that situation).