This is what I get for saying "Here is a thing I'm not saying" isn't it? :)
Hehe, yup.
Veganism etc is simply about what you do while many people have a problem with the label of feminism, or the feminist movement, without having any problems with the principles.
Not quite. The vegan movement is more than just "hey we don't use animal products". Every vegan I've met, both online and IRL has had strong philosphical reasons behind it such as animal rights, animal welfare (which are different movements), environmentalism, personal spirituality etc Veganism just the practical application of such ideologies, but most vegans have a belief system behind it. (If that makes sense?)
you seemed ok with me voicing a different POV as long as I was respectful of your lj as a pro-vegan space
I'm usually happy to debate any vegan topic on my lj if I have left comments open- I just don't want the vegan bashing you find elseware there. Sometimes I don't want to discuss something so I turn off the comments or screen them. But you are always polite and I always feel that you are interested in whatever my comments are on an issue and why our views differ. I've often found myself in debate with people who are really just looking to put vegans down or make themselves feel less guilty of what they do. They usually ask the questions like "would you eat meat if you were stuck on a desert island" and "if your house was in fire and you could only save your baby and your cat which would you pick". They aren't actually interested in discussion and it's not something I want to spend my lj on. People, such as yourself, are more than welcome to comment and debate though because you are open minded.
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Hehe, yup.
Veganism etc is simply about what you do while many people have a problem with the label of feminism, or the feminist movement, without having any problems with the principles.
Not quite. The vegan movement is more than just "hey we don't use animal products". Every vegan I've met, both online and IRL has had strong philosphical reasons behind it such as animal rights, animal welfare (which are different movements), environmentalism, personal spirituality etc Veganism just the practical application of such ideologies, but most vegans have a belief system behind it. (If that makes sense?)
you seemed ok with me voicing a different POV as long as I was respectful of your lj as a pro-vegan space
I'm usually happy to debate any vegan topic on my lj if I have left comments open- I just don't want the vegan bashing you find elseware there. Sometimes I don't want to discuss something so I turn off the comments or screen them. But you are always polite and I always feel that you are interested in whatever my comments are on an issue and why our views differ. I've often found myself in debate with people who are really just looking to put vegans down or make themselves feel less guilty of what they do. They usually ask the questions like "would you eat meat if you were stuck on a desert island" and "if your house was in fire and you could only save your baby and your cat which would you pick". They aren't actually interested in discussion and it's not something I want to spend my lj on. People, such as yourself, are more than welcome to comment and debate though because you are open minded.