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Thursday, March 5th, 2009 12:52 pm
I am feeling sick and grumpy but also chatty. So, some links from [livejournal.com profile] metafandom with rambly commentary.

Failboat! The Cruise Ship of the Damned Sails On summarises a bunch of stuff.

veejane asks what sff fandom is going to do about this crap.

On safe spaces talks about, well, safe spaces.

Re the Will Shetterly/Kathyryn Cramer vs [livejournal.com profile] coffeeandink thing(*): outing someone under their real name because they disagreed with you and banned you from their lj? Is unbelievably low. Dismissing the opinions of everyone who disagrees with you "because all their IPs come from Ivy league colleges"? Low and stupid. Arguing against the use of pseudonyms on the internet? Just..argh. The stupid burns.

Also, given that Worldcon is in Australia next year I find myself putting together my opinions on aussie fandom with all this stuff going on in international fandom. I feel a bit stymied about what I can do personally to try to cut down on the fail, though, apart from trying not to contribute to it myself and encouraging anti-fail.

So since [livejournal.com profile] coffeeandink asked people to focus on positive things: I am currently reading "Devil in Blue Dress" by Walter Mosley after being recced it on [livejournal.com profile] 50books_poc. It is quite good, even if it's not spec fic :)

(*)People are avoiding saying their names because apparently they google stalk and harrass them, but if NOONE says their names noone will know whose been talked about. I feel too obscure to be worried, but incase they do: seriously, you're going to pick on a no-name australian rambling while sick? This will not help your PR.
Tuesday, March 10th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
First off, see Point 2 here (the pdf is also very good)

Noone is saying your experiences aren't valid. The point is, they're not relevant, not to this conversation (feel free to write a post about it on your on lj if you want). And your opinion (and mine) is less valid than Stephie's. White people simply don't get to decide if things are racist or not.

Also:
I think it's important to fight racism in fandom as well as other sorts of racism. While I think the racism suffered by poor POC is extra specially in need of attention, I get annoyed at the way left wing people think fighting racism=fighting class and ignore the racism suffered by middle class POC and POC associated with the middle class like asians. I've spent much of the past few years getting past the narrow if well meaning attitudes towards race I got from my working class socialist family, and get annoyed when I feel like others are acting the same way.

Imagine this:
You write a post about how people should get more involved in helping remote aboriginal communities.

What I would do:
Either say something supportive or helpful, or say nothing.

What I would not do:
Reply saying I think our energy would be more effectively spent fighting racism in fandom.

An aboriginal person comes in to say that racism in remote aboriginal communities is pretty bad and deserves more attention.

I reply saying that ok, yes, I'm white, but afaict the issue is more to do with blah(*), and I get annoyed at the way anti-racism gets taken over by socialist agendas.

Can you see how wrong that would be? Can you see how your statement is equivalent?

(*)I would have to make up something I don't believe here, and I don't have the stomach for it.