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Sunday, July 5th, 2009 04:32 pm
A bunch of interesting links and ideas seem to be coming out of the Feministe post Thoughts on disability and respectful language.

Reading the comments I finally had an answer to my niggling concern with the social model of disability glossing over the fact that some disabilities really do, objectively, suck, for reasons that have nothing to do with society:

But we need to break out of the model, which undoubtedly has a stronghold on the rest o society, as necessarily always in the negative realm. There is nothing INHERENTLY negative about disability. That doesn’t mean there can’t BE negatives — just that it isn’t necessarily, and always, negative.
Sunday, July 5th, 2009 11:32 am (UTC)
*nodnod* I've tried to talk about that before and been shouted down. It's hard to explain and when one is emotionally exhausted to begin with, almost impossible. Amandaw is awesome.
Sunday, July 5th, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC)
I find that post problematical on so many levels. Given the choice between people putting time an effort into changing their word usage and altering social conventions for my benefit (changes that would then disadvantage far more people in total) or putting time and effort into finding a medical solution that would relieve my condition... well, there is absolutely no question which I would vote for. The social inconveniences of my condition are just that - inconveniences. The medical ones are real every day problems that have completely dominated my life and reduced its quality by an unimaginable amount. The idea there is nothing inherently negative about CFS is insane. The main impression I get from that post is of someone desperately trying to bolster their own self-esteem and lashing out in the process, and I find their arguments poisonous nonsense. Even on the purely social level Pride isn't the answer - pride never helped anyone. What is needed is genuine self-esteem and respect, and that is a far more complex notion that takes far more work.

And I'm tired and already in a bad mood and probably shouldn't be commenting at all.
Sunday, July 5th, 2009 08:31 pm (UTC)
I was actually going to make a post about this, but perhaps I will just make a comment here, instead? My own reaction to reading about the social model over the medical model thing was defensiveness, since I'm a scientist, and my thought was first "But there is something wrong if you are not functioning at optimal performance, and there are ways to make that better."

But I thought about it, y'know, attempting desperately to check my privilege, and I think the big sticking point for me that might seem obvious but is never addressed is that the medical model isn't being dismissed in its place. If you want to go to the doctor and say "Give me medicine to make pain stop" or "Help me fit a brace for my leg" or whatever, the social model doesn't interfere there. The social model is for all the other interactions, which are not about individual action but about guaranteeing access to everyone. Which also helps with the problem that applying the medical model to societal interactions puts the onus on the individual to fix things, which is not always possible, especially since disability is closely entwined with class (either as a cause or an effect.)