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Wednesday, August 6th, 2014 10:45 pm
Man I'm still never entirely sure what I think about ffa ([community profile] fail_fandomanon) I've been thinking about it recently after a friend of mine had to leave because the incredibly nasty things people say there about a group she's in were bringing her down. I wish there was somewhere I could go for active fannish conversations that was less likely to randomly dissolve into intense ableism/transphobia/whatever and that didn't assume anyone there was, by definition, "anti-sj". (I mean I am against "sjw"s by the definition of "bully or abuser who uses social justice terminology". Because I'm against all bullies and abusers! But there are plenty of people there who are against any serious attempt at social change, and/or whose definition of sjw includes me and many of my friends)

It took me a long time to learn to recognise the difference between trolls who don't represent the average views at all and more mainstream opinions. It's not fair to hold up the worst of the group as representative of the whole, and there's a pretty wide range of opinions even once you exclude the outliers. But (a)Knowing someone's a troll doesn't always remove the sting of what they've said and (b)The mainstream opinions can still be pretty awful. And that's just on abstract topics, once they start talking about individual fans it can get nasty, hypocritical and just WRONG (the reactions to my own meta haven't been too meansprited, but they tended to miss the point or focus on trivialities. Which admitedly can in part be blamed on my own lack of clarity)

Urg, I'm tired, I'm not expressing this very well. Guess I'm not up to much beyond reading ffa and feeling weird about it :/
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Saturday, August 9th, 2014 03:10 pm (UTC)
ETA: Although I'll give you this, there is one kind of opinion I share there and not in my journal and that is that I am fed the hell up with the MCU and Captain America and I would rejoice if that whole thing went away tomorrow and was never heard from again. But that would mean upsetting my friends who love this stuff and I don't want to grump on the things that make them happy. In such cases it's easier to commiserate with fellow MCU haters elsewhere.

Wow. Thank you. I thought I was the only one in fandom who felt this way. I walked out of Iron Man 2 and haven't been back to see a comic-book movie since. While I wouldn't diss the movies in someone else's journal, I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who knows me that I am not on the MCU bandwagon. Is there a weekly commenting place for MCU at FFA? At least reading it would make me feel less weird and alone, I guess. Sherlock is the other popular show that I'm not comfortable criticizing in my journal. And those Lord of the Rings books, I guess.
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Saturday, August 9th, 2014 08:11 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, every now and then a thread will pop up where people can vent about this to their hearts' desire. Sometimes the MCU fans barge in and get insufferable in their desire to defend everything forever (which I don't understand; if somebody hates the thing I love what does it matter? as long as they're not telling me I shouldn't like it, they can criticise it all they like) but last post there was an "overexposure leads to hatred" thread that focused plenty on these megafandoms that just keep going because the canon isn't taking any breaks either.
Saturday, August 9th, 2014 08:13 pm (UTC)
Aaaand the anon comment was me because I was in FFA just now recommending friendship-themed books to people.