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Becuase Rae asked (in a post I locked for other reasons)
If anyone knows of anyone with a less flimsy background in literary analysis or the show itself who's talked about this stuff I'd love to see it, the best I got from googling "Gilmore girls racism/classism/marxism" was an interesting analysis of Buffy. I am of course including you guys opinions in that, feel free to tell me I'm wrong (I should make that my sig) :)
So, Gimore girls is about Lorelei Gilmore and her daughter Rory. Lorelei is the daughter of snooty upper middle class conservatives, and was well on her way to fulfilling their conformist ideas of success when she got pregnant at 16, left home, and made her own way in the world working from maid to hotel manager. Lorelei is determined for Rory not to make the same mistakes, as is Rory, who is smart and achedemic. In the first episode she gets accepted to a snooty private school. Rory's best friend is a first generation Korean girl. Her parents want her to eat vegetarian asian food, dress sensibly, and marry a (Korean) doctor etc.
To me the moral of the show is that young, white, middle class people are great. Everyone else sucks, or is at least blind to the awesomeness of the young white middle class characters. Parents (except Lorelei, who seems to act more like a teenager or someone from "Friends") are overly strict and small minded and conservative without having any useful advice or wisdom or any understanding of their children's POV. They are always wrong. This show makes a lot more sense to me now I realise it's aimed at teenagers, but I guess I've been spoiled by Buffy where while Giles and Mrs Summers are often wrong or misguided they're still presented with empathy, and we can see why they feel the way they do.
I'm 27, five years younger than Lorelei, and I know a bunch of fun loving women around my age who have kids. And to me, she acts like a petulant teenager, not an adult. Either she's more sensible and boring than she's been shown to be so far, or she'd be a constant strain and dissapointment as a mother. (I'm less sure of this point)
The Korean friend's mother is "amusingly" crazy, the implication to me being that part of her craziness is in expecting her daughter to want to hold on to any aspect of her Korean-ness when she has a chance to eat hamburgers and be an (almost) white american. I mean my highschool friends with asian parents did chafe against the comparitive strictness, but something about the portrayal bugged me. I came accross a bunch of Koren-americans online saying they liked the portrayal, so maybe it's just me or gets more nuanced.
Lorelei's parents, and everyone at the snooty school, are caricatures of the rich with no depth, all smug and emotionally empty and coldly ambitious. Now I can kind of understand this from fiction which is trying to highlight the difficulties of being working class or whatever (though it still bugs me) but as someone whose childhood notion of Extreme, Excessive Wealth was owning your own house and two cars (and then went to a snooty prestigious school) I get irritated when the "normal" character we're supposed to empathise with in contrast has a high paying, prestigious job and owns their own car and large pretty home, and there don't seem to be any actual poor people in sight.
Anyway, getting sleepy now. May edit it on like Friday (the next time I have any free time) These opinions are horribly uninformed but, well Rae asked (yeah, I am milking this as a pretext to rant :)), and this way if I am wrong chances are someone will tell me!
If anyone knows of anyone with a less flimsy background in literary analysis or the show itself who's talked about this stuff I'd love to see it, the best I got from googling "Gilmore girls racism/classism/marxism" was an interesting analysis of Buffy. I am of course including you guys opinions in that, feel free to tell me I'm wrong (I should make that my sig) :)
So, Gimore girls is about Lorelei Gilmore and her daughter Rory. Lorelei is the daughter of snooty upper middle class conservatives, and was well on her way to fulfilling their conformist ideas of success when she got pregnant at 16, left home, and made her own way in the world working from maid to hotel manager. Lorelei is determined for Rory not to make the same mistakes, as is Rory, who is smart and achedemic. In the first episode she gets accepted to a snooty private school. Rory's best friend is a first generation Korean girl. Her parents want her to eat vegetarian asian food, dress sensibly, and marry a (Korean) doctor etc.
To me the moral of the show is that young, white, middle class people are great. Everyone else sucks, or is at least blind to the awesomeness of the young white middle class characters. Parents (except Lorelei, who seems to act more like a teenager or someone from "Friends") are overly strict and small minded and conservative without having any useful advice or wisdom or any understanding of their children's POV. They are always wrong. This show makes a lot more sense to me now I realise it's aimed at teenagers, but I guess I've been spoiled by Buffy where while Giles and Mrs Summers are often wrong or misguided they're still presented with empathy, and we can see why they feel the way they do.
I'm 27, five years younger than Lorelei, and I know a bunch of fun loving women around my age who have kids. And to me, she acts like a petulant teenager, not an adult. Either she's more sensible and boring than she's been shown to be so far, or she'd be a constant strain and dissapointment as a mother. (I'm less sure of this point)
The Korean friend's mother is "amusingly" crazy, the implication to me being that part of her craziness is in expecting her daughter to want to hold on to any aspect of her Korean-ness when she has a chance to eat hamburgers and be an (almost) white american. I mean my highschool friends with asian parents did chafe against the comparitive strictness, but something about the portrayal bugged me. I came accross a bunch of Koren-americans online saying they liked the portrayal, so maybe it's just me or gets more nuanced.
Lorelei's parents, and everyone at the snooty school, are caricatures of the rich with no depth, all smug and emotionally empty and coldly ambitious. Now I can kind of understand this from fiction which is trying to highlight the difficulties of being working class or whatever (though it still bugs me) but as someone whose childhood notion of Extreme, Excessive Wealth was owning your own house and two cars (and then went to a snooty prestigious school) I get irritated when the "normal" character we're supposed to empathise with in contrast has a high paying, prestigious job and owns their own car and large pretty home, and there don't seem to be any actual poor people in sight.
Anyway, getting sleepy now. May edit it on like Friday (the next time I have any free time) These opinions are horribly uninformed but, well Rae asked (yeah, I am milking this as a pretext to rant :)), and this way if I am wrong chances are someone will tell me!
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It's a Cult of the Low thing ok?
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