Thursday, December 11th, 2008 09:44 pm
I just finished Guitar Hero (the original, from the video store) on medium setting. In like 3 days!

To put this in perspective: I don't think I have ever finished any computer game that involved manual dexterity/hand eye coordination on a non-easy setting before. And even the ones that have an easy setting tend to challenge me a fair bit. Heck, about the only genre of game that I can get through without cheats/walkthroughs/excessive leveling etc is word games.

I still haven't finished "Portal". I'm fine right up until they introduce things that shoot at you, and then the puzzle solving part of my brain curls into the foetal position wailing "Can't think! Robots will shoot me!"

Anyway, if it turns out this version of the game is actually really easy? Don't tell me. I am happier in my blissful ignorance, at least for the moment :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC)
"Can't think! Robots will shoot me!" Yes! That!

I'm curled up near the rocket launcher going "ohshit" presently. And when I say presently I mean a month or two :P
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 10:59 pm (UTC)
What makes it worse is that I leave it for a few months, and then lose a,l my saves for one reason or another (the game dies, cam reboots computer etc) so have to start all over again...That and I've forgotten how it all works and have to get back up to speed.
(Anonymous)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC)
"This version" as in the original Guitar Hero?

You have nothing to worry about, let me and the ten thousand others who can't pass easy assure you that it is not any easy game, least of all in any of the non-easy stages. :-/
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks, random anonymous person :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:27 pm (UTC)
Also, Portal was kinda nice that I had the option of being able to sit behind a wall/crate carefully, think for a bit, and slowly get through the levels where things shot back at me, carefully avoiding their lines of sight and knocking things out one by one.

And that I had the option of trying to race through the levels afterwards trying to use as many "tricks" as possible. (c:

Mmm. I really wanna go back and play that, now.
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
It takes a LONG time for adrenaline to wear off me, by which time I've forgotten what I was doing :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:37 pm (UTC)
Congratulations !

I'm not quite the same with the manual dexterity thing, and haven't played portal so can't compare there. I do have issues with certain types of games though and am quite happy at my achievements when I get somewhere new in one of them.

Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
Yes, I think everyone has things where what seems like a small achievement is a Big Deal due to the need to overcome natural ineptitude :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 04:18 pm (UTC)
Yay!

Does RTS require dextrity/coordination if you get to pause?
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
RTS= real time shooter?

I guess I COULD do a RTS with lots of pausing, but it would take a loooong time and not be much fun :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:33 pm (UTC)
Real time strategy. I think you could probably do turn-based strategy, but there's little speed element to that.
Sunday, December 14th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC)
Ahhhh.

As it happens I suck at those too, but for different reasons :)
Sunday, December 14th, 2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
What reasons are those?
Monday, December 15th, 2008 09:55 am (UTC)
For some reason I suck at strategy games. I can't think far enough ahead (I try, but my predictions are always wrong)

So, no specific reasons, but I'm pretty sure the underlying deficiency isn't related to my lack of hand/eye coordination :)
Monday, December 15th, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
I see! Is this even given perfect knowledge? Would you like a game of chess?
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:27 am (UTC)
Define "perfect knowledge"?

And no. God do I hate chess. I have many bitter childhood memories of being trounced by my dad.
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:37 am (UTC)
Um, what's the usual definition? My Google skills are being inadequate today.

I want to do this by stats - information on decisions conditioned on the game state (i.e. no conditioning at all) is the same as those stats conditioned on the information available to any of the players. I'm not sure whether this is the same as being able to reconstruct the entirety of the game state from any player's knowledge.
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:38 am (UTC)
Okay, I think that was a stupid approach. Wiki just says can discover the game state.
Wednesday, December 17th, 2008 12:20 am (UTC)
Oh: so, if I knew everyone's hand or whatever would I be any good? Well, I suck at chess, so no :) Obviously it would help with those games where having perfect knowledge is basically cheating (ie most card games) but on the whole an inability to guess what other people have is far outweighed by an inability to guess what they'll do. Plus I just can't hold much complicated stuff in my head at once.
Wednesday, December 17th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
I see! I try not to guess what people'll do if I can, reckoning that I can always find out at any point, and also that lots of options are going to be heavily dominated.
Friday, December 12th, 2008 10:19 am (UTC)
I fail at shooters - if the 3-D environment and need to control my character from an approximately first-person-view doesn't get me the motion sickness does.
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC)
"Can't think! Robots will shoot me!" Yes! That!

I'm curled up near the rocket launcher going "ohshit" presently. And when I say presently I mean a month or two :P
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 10:59 pm (UTC)
What makes it worse is that I leave it for a few months, and then lose a,l my saves for one reason or another (the game dies, cam reboots computer etc) so have to start all over again...That and I've forgotten how it all works and have to get back up to speed.
(Anonymous)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC)
"This version" as in the original Guitar Hero?

You have nothing to worry about, let me and the ten thousand others who can't pass easy assure you that it is not any easy game, least of all in any of the non-easy stages. :-/
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks, random anonymous person :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:27 pm (UTC)
Also, Portal was kinda nice that I had the option of being able to sit behind a wall/crate carefully, think for a bit, and slowly get through the levels where things shot back at me, carefully avoiding their lines of sight and knocking things out one by one.

And that I had the option of trying to race through the levels afterwards trying to use as many "tricks" as possible. (c:

Mmm. I really wanna go back and play that, now.
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
It takes a LONG time for adrenaline to wear off me, by which time I've forgotten what I was doing :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 01:37 pm (UTC)
Congratulations !

I'm not quite the same with the manual dexterity thing, and haven't played portal so can't compare there. I do have issues with certain types of games though and am quite happy at my achievements when I get somewhere new in one of them.

Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
Yes, I think everyone has things where what seems like a small achievement is a Big Deal due to the need to overcome natural ineptitude :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 04:18 pm (UTC)
Yay!

Does RTS require dextrity/coordination if you get to pause?
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
RTS= real time shooter?

I guess I COULD do a RTS with lots of pausing, but it would take a loooong time and not be much fun :)
Thursday, December 11th, 2008 11:33 pm (UTC)
Real time strategy. I think you could probably do turn-based strategy, but there's little speed element to that.
Sunday, December 14th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC)
Ahhhh.

As it happens I suck at those too, but for different reasons :)
Sunday, December 14th, 2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
What reasons are those?
Monday, December 15th, 2008 09:55 am (UTC)
For some reason I suck at strategy games. I can't think far enough ahead (I try, but my predictions are always wrong)

So, no specific reasons, but I'm pretty sure the underlying deficiency isn't related to my lack of hand/eye coordination :)
Monday, December 15th, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
I see! Is this even given perfect knowledge? Would you like a game of chess?
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:27 am (UTC)
Define "perfect knowledge"?

And no. God do I hate chess. I have many bitter childhood memories of being trounced by my dad.
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:37 am (UTC)
Um, what's the usual definition? My Google skills are being inadequate today.

I want to do this by stats - information on decisions conditioned on the game state (i.e. no conditioning at all) is the same as those stats conditioned on the information available to any of the players. I'm not sure whether this is the same as being able to reconstruct the entirety of the game state from any player's knowledge.
Monday, December 15th, 2008 11:38 am (UTC)
Okay, I think that was a stupid approach. Wiki just says can discover the game state.
Wednesday, December 17th, 2008 12:20 am (UTC)
Oh: so, if I knew everyone's hand or whatever would I be any good? Well, I suck at chess, so no :) Obviously it would help with those games where having perfect knowledge is basically cheating (ie most card games) but on the whole an inability to guess what other people have is far outweighed by an inability to guess what they'll do. Plus I just can't hold much complicated stuff in my head at once.
Wednesday, December 17th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
I see! I try not to guess what people'll do if I can, reckoning that I can always find out at any point, and also that lots of options are going to be heavily dominated.
Friday, December 12th, 2008 10:19 am (UTC)
I fail at shooters - if the 3-D environment and need to control my character from an approximately first-person-view doesn't get me the motion sickness does.