So, I've always had a certain amount of interest in women's rights, but always felt a bit put off by feminism for reasons I couldn't articulate. I eventually decided to dig a bit and either get over it or figure out what the problem was. In the process I've become convinced of two things:
(a) I am a feminist, and feminism still has a lot of important work left to do
(b) There are a bunch of things I don't really like about the feminist movement as it actually works
And I got curious about you guys experiences and identities.
If you're not sure what the definition of "feminist" is, well... afaict there isn't a completely agreed upon one, but here's a bunch, afaict the consensus is along the lines of "Thinking society deals with gender in a way that, on balance, harms women, and that this should be corrected".
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I'm especially interested in women who don't identify as feminist: do you have an issue with feminism, or do you think it's ok but just don't see any particular need to identify yourself that way? Other people's povs (including mens!) are also welcome, though.
And yes,
vegetus, this does give you leave to rant a bit :) Though I would remind everyone to be civil, openminded, and tolerant. Keep in mind that we have some very different POVs here, any one of which will probably strike at least one person as Wrong And Dumb. Please take any narky arguments outside and try not to start any!
As for myself, well, you can see my (mixed) opinions on this lj.
ithiliana's post Racism Imbroglios, White Feminist Bloggers, RWOC, and deja vu inspired me to make this poll, I particularly liked the line:
(a) I am a feminist, and feminism still has a lot of important work left to do
(b) There are a bunch of things I don't really like about the feminist movement as it actually works
And I got curious about you guys experiences and identities.
If you're not sure what the definition of "feminist" is, well... afaict there isn't a completely agreed upon one, but here's a bunch, afaict the consensus is along the lines of "Thinking society deals with gender in a way that, on balance, harms women, and that this should be corrected".
[Poll #1169959]
I'm especially interested in women who don't identify as feminist: do you have an issue with feminism, or do you think it's ok but just don't see any particular need to identify yourself that way? Other people's povs (including mens!) are also welcome, though.
And yes,
As for myself, well, you can see my (mixed) opinions on this lj.
Within feminist discourse sisterhood became simultaneously an unquestioned assumption, an unexamined bond, and a mode of controlling behavior and containing difference.
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I don't so much have a problem with feminism, but I've just felt fairly neutral about all that sort of thing. When asked about economic inequality, or anything like that, the best I can manage is "It's a bad thing". I'm just fairly politically neutral, like Sweden.
'Feminist' has lots of overtones to it- women are better (than men), women have special creative and communicative skills, women are oppressed, womean are angry blah blah blah. Women a great, men are great. Yeah, in the past there was obvious inequality, and it's not all magically fixed now (especially in particular cultures) and that's the only bit I get annoyed at. Otherwise I'd just like all the world's power and wealth and resources to be put in a metaphorical blender and redistributed over the world. That, however, isn't going to happen because of Fact C- people are jerks of all shapes and varieties.
(I've also met proponents from each end of the spectrum, and it's the do little more than amuse me and discourage me from tipping either side of the grey.)
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By which I mean to say: THERE IS NO ESCAPE, YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED INTO THE FEMINIST HIVEMIND
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Indeed. If only there was a movement against jerks.